This beautiful valley of Jezreel/Megiddo will never see an end-time battle
Last site edit: June 12 2017
In defence of the sidelined God Jehovah, Creator of the Universe and Father of Humanity
About God's Wrath, exclusively connected with
His firstborn son Israel and His purpose link
Quotations herein are from the American Standard Version 1901 unless otherwise indicated.
Sorry about the outdated wording in that translation. I had to retain the century's old identity of God whereas modern versions pander to political correctness and Jewish superstition with an unidentifiable God.
However, using this version poses a problem of consistency in translation, notably with wrath.
Don’t rightly know enough about the consistency of other versions, but most fall short of it.
A quick Strong's number search in the online bible or online single translations keyed to Strong’s dictionary will tell the tale.
The NWT poses little problems in this regard. The first time it uses wrath in translation is the first occurrence of (Strong’s 02534) in the underlying text:
Numbers 25:11 Phinehas turned my (God’s) wrath (Strong’s 02534) away from the children of Israel (His firstborn son) — deep hot heartfelt hurt pained angry wrath.
Prior to that, and of course after, the original text uses Strong’s 0639 anger —
first occurrence in Genesis 39:19 where Joseph's master was angry after his wife
Joseph of infidelity toward her — upset hurt and angry.
I won't bothered to change anything on this page beyond what I already did.
Translator's apostate driven efforts are not my task to remedy. The truth of God's purpose will stand the test of time and apostate fiddling to ultimate triumph in a glorious crescendo.
In keeping with the way I do my learning, using a verse or two coupled with a definition is usually enough.
Conclusion in this case: No Law=No Transgression=No Wrath.
Nevertheless, a little more depth is not out of place here.
I discovered that the first significant occurrence of the word Wrath in the OT was between God and man, not man to man, and is Israel related. It occurs in Exodus 22:24 in connection with the law about widows and fatherless boys and what was to happen to those who mistreat them:
22 "you shall not afflict any widow or fatherless child. 23 "If you afflict them in any way, and they cry at all to Me, I will surely hear their cry; 24 "and My wrath will become hot, and I will kill you with the sword; your wives shall be widows, and your children fatherless. NKJV
Some related verses from the Pentateuch:
Here Jehovah was so disgusted with Israel, He wanted to make Moses into the great nation instead and for his seed to be the seed of Abraham.
Exodus 32:9, 10 9 And Jehovah said unto Moses, I have seen this people, and, behold, it is a stiff-necked people: 10 now therefore let me alone, that my wrath may wax hot against them, and that I may consume them: and I will make of thee a great nation.
Then follows Moses' plea to Jehovah to continue with the people redeemed from Egypt:
Exodus 32: 11 And Moses besought Jehovah his God, and said, Jehovah, why doth thy wrath wax hot against thy people, that thou hast brought forth out of the land of Egypt with great power and with a mighty hand?
Exodus 32:12 Wherefore should the Egyptians speak, saying, For evil did he bring them forth, to slay them in the mountains, and to consume them from the face of the earth? Turn from thy fierce wrath, and repent of this evil against thy people.
and a reminder of that and other wrath-provoking sins of Israel:
Deuteronomy 9:7 ¶ Remember, forget thou not, how thou provokedst Jehovah thy God to wrath in the wilderness: from the day that thou wentest forth out of the land of Egypt, until ye came unto this place, ye have been rebellious against Jehovah.
Deuteronomy 9:8 8 Also in Horeb ye provoked Jehovah to wrath, and Jehovah was angry with you to destroy you.
Now, after Israel has had a long time to obey the law , but failed, Jehovah's wrath was clearly kindled and needed expressing:
Isaiah 10:6 6 I will send him against a profane nation, and against the people of my wrath will I give him a charge, to take the spoil, and to take the prey, and to tread them down like the mire of the streets.
Isaiah 13:9 9 Behold, the day of Jehovah cometh, cruel, with wrath and fierce anger; to make the land a desolation, and to destroy the sinners thereof out of it)
Yet Jehovah's compassion for His firstborn son Israel, the flock of His pasture continues in spite of their persistent disobedience:
Isaiah 54:8 In a little wrath I hid my face from thee for a moment; but with everlasting kindness will I have mercy on thee, saith the LORD thy Redeemer. KJV
Isaiah 60:10 10 And foreigners shall build up thy walls, and their kings shall minister unto thee: for in my wrath I smote thee, but in my favor have I had mercy on thee..
Jeremiah 32:37-42 Behold, I will gather them out of all the countries, whither I have driven them in mine anger, and in my wrath, and in great indignation; and I will bring them again unto this place, and I will cause them to dwell safely:
38 and they shall be my people, and I will be their God:
39 and I will give them one heart and one way, that they may fear me for ever, for the good of them, and of their children after them:
40 and I will make an everlasting covenant with them, that I will not turn away from following them, to do them good; and I will put my fear in their hearts, that they may not depart from me.
41 Yea, I will rejoice over them to do them good, and I will plant them in this land assuredly with my whole heart and with my whole soul.
42 For thus saith Jehovah: Like as I have brought all this great evil upon this people, so will I bring upon them all the good that I have promised them.
Jeremiah 44:8 6 Wherefore my wrath and mine anger was poured forth, and was kindled in the cities of Judah and in the streets of Jerusalem; and they are wasted and desolate, as it is this day.
7 Therefore now thus saith Jehovah, the God of hosts, the God of Israel: Wherefore commit ye this great evil against your own souls, to cut off from you man and woman, infant and suckling, out of the midst of Judah, to leave you none remaining;
8 in that ye provoke me unto anger with the works of your hands, burning incense unto other gods in the land of Egypt, whither ye are gone to sojourn; that ye may be cut off, and that ye may be a curse and a reproach among all the nations of the earth?
9 Have ye forgotten the wickedness of your fathers, and the wickedness of the kings of Judah, and the wickedness of their wives, and your own wickedness, and the wickedness of your wives which they committed in the land of Judah, and in the streets of Jerusalem?
10 They are not humbled even unto this day, neither have they feared, nor walked in my law, nor in my statutes, that I set before you and before your fathers.
11 Therefore thus saith Jehovah of hosts, the God of Israel: Behold, I will set my face against you for evil, even to cut off all Judah.
12 And I will take the remnant of Judah, that have set their faces to go into the land of Egypt to sojourn there, and they shall all be consumed; in the land of Egypt shall they fall; they shall be consumed by the sword and by the famine; they shall die, from the least even unto the greatest, by the sword and by the famine; and they shall be an execration, and an astonishment, and a curse, and a reproach.
13 For I will punish them that dwell in the land of Egypt, as I have punished Jerusalem, by the sword, by the famine, and by the pestilence;
14 so that none of the remnant of Judah, that are gone into the land of Egypt to sojourn there, shall escape or be left, to return into the land of Judah, to which they have a desire to return to dwell there: for none shall return save such as shall escape.
15 ¶ Then all the men who knew that their wives burned incense unto other gods, and all the women that stood by, a great assembly, even all the people that dwelt in the land of Egypt, in Pathros, answered Jeremiah, saying,
16 As for the word that thou hast spoken unto us in the name of Jehovah, we will not hearken unto thee.
17 But we will certainly perform every word that is gone forth out of our mouth, to burn incense unto the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink–offerings unto her, as we have done, we and our fathers, our kings and our princes, in the cities of Judah, and in the streets of Jerusalem; for then had we plenty of victuals, and were well, and saw no evil.
Hosea 5:10 The princes of Judah have become like those who move a boundary; On them I will pour out My wrath like water. NAS
Hosea 13:11 I gave thee a king in mine anger, and took [him] away in my wrath. KJV
Zephaniah 1:15 That day [is] a day of wrath, a day of trouble and distress, a day of wasteness and desolation, a day of darkness and gloominess, a day of clouds and thick darkness, KJV
Zephaniah 1:18 Neither their silver nor their gold shall be able to deliver them in the day of Jehovah’s wrath; but the whole land shall be devoured by the fire of his jealousy: for he will make an end, yea, a terrible end, of all them that dwell in the land.
Zechariah 7:9-14 9 Thus hath Jehovah of hosts spoken, saying, Execute true judgment, and show kindness and compassion every man to his brother;
10 and oppress not the widow, nor the fatherless, the sojourner, nor the poor; and let none of you devise evil against his brother in your heart.
11 But they refused to hearken, and pulled away the shoulder, and stopped their ears, that they might not hear.
12 Yea, they made their hearts as an adamant stone, lest they should hear the law, and the words which Jehovah of hosts had sent by his Spirit by the former prophets: therefore there came great wrath from Jehovah of hosts.
13 And it is come to pass that, as he cried, and they would not hear, so they shall cry, and I will not hear, said Jehovah of hosts;
14 but I will scatter them with a whirlwind among all the nations which they have not known. Thus the land was desolate after them, so that no man passed through nor returned: for they laid the pleasant land desolate.
Zechariah 8: 14 For thus saith Jehovah of hosts: As I thought to do evil unto you, when your fathers provoked me to wrath, saith Jehovah of hosts, and I repented not;
In the New Testament it is the same wrath upon the same people Israel, which will remain upon them individually even though Israel's death in the person of Jesus, their Passover/Atonement lamb, meant that they had now been collectively completely acquitted from sin i.e. all their transgressions against the law.
However, the little flock thus redeemed or ransomed as part of that disobedient, but redeemed nation still have to accept Jehovah's means of saving them to qualify to continue to run with the promises God made to Abraham, for them, as his seed, to become a blessing to all the families of the earth including those promises He subsequently made to Israel at Mt Horeb for them to become a Kingdom of Priests and a Holy (set apart) nation to accomplish that.
John 3:36 "He who believes in the Son has eternal life; but he who does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him." NAS
Romans 1:18 18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness,
19 ¶ because that which is known about God is evident within them; for God made it evident to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse. 21 For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God, or give thanks; but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22 Professing to be wise, they became fools,
23 and exchanged the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the form of corruptible man and of birds and four-footed animals and crawling creatures. NAS
Romans is not addressing the whole of humanity here, who could neither suppress God's truth because they never had it or were aware of it in the first place nor could therefore have known God, but those who came out of disobedient Israel, the only people who knew the truth, and still desiring to run with the promises:
Verse 7 of Paul's introduction:
To all who are in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints*: Grace* to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
* [separated ones, chosen]
* [good will, loving-kindness, favour]
Ephesians 5: 3 ¶ But fornication and all uncleanness or covetousness, let it not even be named among you, as is fitting for saints; 4 neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor coarse jesting, which are not fitting, but rather giving of thanks. 5 For this you know, that no fornicator, unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God. 6 Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience.
sons of disobedience can only be those who had a law to disobey. Mankind has no such law.
Impossible to obey the advice not to eat from the tree of life in Eden in retrospect, for we are not in that garden now nor do we have access to it. No good raving on here about principles, law-in-heart which was only going to be given to Israel much later as a new testamental/covenant anyway, or shadows and conceptual structures plagiarized from legitimate uses elsewhere in scripture.
4 When Christ who is our life appears, then you also will appear with Him in glory.
5 Therefore put to death your members which are on the earth: fornication,
uncleanness, passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry.
6 Because of these things the wrath of God is coming upon the sons of disobedience,
But to reiterate: the Sons of disobedience were only those who had law, for there can be no disobedience if there is nothing to obey. Hence the reference is here to Israel.
The wrath of God promised in verse 6 was the greatest tribulation to ever be visited upon any people. It began in 66 at the hands of the Roman empire and is still continuing today by the powers that be.
The reader of the Bible needs to be aware that only unscriptural inferences can be drawn from the phrase: sons of disobedience to mean all of Adam's offspring. In view of God never punishing the children for the sins of fathers, as clearly expressed in Law, sons of disobedience can only apply to Israel. - see Deuteronomy 24:16.
Now for the occurrences of wrath of God in Revelation:
1 Is that against sinful mankind?
2 Men who have attacked God's people?
3 Those of His people who became apostate and disobedient?
It certainly is the latter and is tied to the end of fleshly Israel as an identifiable people connected to God's purpose, for that will have been achieved in the Seed of Abraham when genderless multi-ethnic Israel takes their place in the sanctuary of God's Most Holy heavenly presence as God's kingdom to undue all the damage that 6000 years of misery of unguided human domination have wrought and to complete the original assignment given to Adam:
Re 6:16-17 and they say to the mountains and to the rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: 17 for the great day of their wrath is come; and who is able to stand?
(Revelation 14:9-12) 9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, 10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: 11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name. 12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
. De 29:23 And that the whole land thereof is brimstone, and salt, and burning, that it is not sown, nor beareth, nor any grass groweth therein, like the overthrow of Sodom, and Gomorrah, Admah, and Zeboim, which the LORD overthrew in his anger, and in his wrath:
(Revelation 14:18-20) 18 And another angel came out from the altar, he that hath power over fire; and he called with a great voice to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Send forth thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe. 19 And the angel cast his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vintage of the earth, and cast it into the winepress, the great winepress, of the wrath of God. 20 And the winepress was trodden without the city, and there came out blood from the winepress, even unto the bridles of the horses, as far as a thousand and six hundred furlongs.
Nevertheless, a little more depth is not out of place here.
(Revelation 15:1 1 And I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvellous, seven angels having seven plagues, which are the last, for in them is finished the wrath of God.
(Revelation 15:5-8) And after these things I saw, and the temple of the tabernacle of the testimony in heaven was opened: 6 and there came out from the temple the seven angels that had the seven plagues, arrayed with precious stone, pure and bright, and girt about their breasts with golden girdles. 7 And one of the four living creatures gave unto the seven angels seven golden bowls full of the wrath of God, who liveth for ever and ever. 8 And the temple was filled with smoke from the glory of God, and from his power; and none was able to enter into the temple, till the seven plagues of the seven angels should be finished. ASV
Nevertheless, a little more depth is not out of place here.
Israel's end time began in 66-70 when the Romans completely annihilated the entire
domain of Jehovah's former people Israel as an expression of His continuing wrath,
which began with the Babylonians in the 7th century BCE and
shall continue, until all those chosen to constitute multiethnic Israel finally cease to exist as they are born again as sons of God and take their God-purposed heavenly position of governance to bless all the families of the earth.
That is what all the wrath talk in Revelation is all about.
Jehovah's anger/wrath is exclusively directed at Israel, as is the entire Bible from Exodus to Revelation about the flock of His inheritance: Israel.
At times, however, it is also against Israel's enemies who have used God's disciplining of them as an excuse to be especially brutal to the flock of Jacob, the apple of His eye.
That's all for now ‑ more in other diverse places on this site.
If you are interested, you'll find them; if not, no big deal.
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