This beautiful valley of Jezreel/Megiddo will never see an end-time battle
Last site edit: September 21 2017
In defence of the sidelined God Jehovah, Creator of the Universe and Father of Humanity
Submission - the rights and wrongs of it.
All creation is subject to Jehovah, the one who created it all, by the very nature of the relationship!
Most of it submits automatically, as it is designed to.
No rampant trees wreaking havoc or rocks picking themselves up and propelling themselves destructively.
All living entities stay within their individual predetermined limits, in keeping with their purposed design still in complete submission to God.
Human beings, on the other hand, were given full autonomy relative to their behavioural freedom of choice, while retaining their physical functions and the natural consequences of interfering with them, subject as they are to all life-sustaining processes.
Submission to these design requirements is prerequisite to the making of choices in keeping with desires and wants, for the dead desire not a thing due to their absent life. A couple reminders of that fact here from the Manual:
4 For to him that is joined with all the living there is hope; for a live dog is better than a dead lion. 5 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not anything, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. 6 As well their love, as their hatred and their envy, is perished long ago; neither have they any more a portion for ever in anything that is done under the sun. . . (Ecclesiastes 9:4-6) ASV
4 His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; In that very day his thoughts perish. (Psalm 146:4) ASV
While submission to a benevolent authority having the best of intentions is laudable, it is as rare as the assumed benevolence.
Subservient submission to the tribal/family head has been a stern feature ever since humanity divested themselves of God's guiding hand and supervision. Always imbued with a religious air, it ultimately became religion as we know it.
Early motives of survival, acquisition and passing something on to the sons to inherit, soon clashed with the likewise noble motives of other extended families/tribes.
Never was there a definitive separation of Church from State, whatever the pretence. Government and religion always maintained a common interest of keeping people submissive.
To that end, wherever religion was a distinct separate entity, it invariably served the state as a handmaiden.
Conquest and subjugation geographically, intellectually and spiritually (whatever that is supposed to mean these days or ever) became the trademark of that power amalgam leaving pain, agony and the death of billions in its wake.
It always was and continues to be tribal.
Those of the mayor subjugators: Christianity and Islam generally use the Bible to justify their collective misdeeds of conquest and oppression by pointing to the conquests God had authorised for pre-messianic Israel as well as the proselytising enjoined upon post-messianic anointed Israel to perform.
Anyone making such claims ought to first check the evidence from that manual given to humans by God.
All others are fakes, yet neutral thinkers never read them to find out. Those on each other's opposition benches barely read their own let alone each other's. If they do, it is only to criticise or condemn, as good literature or as a means to greater profit.
No one can or wishes to comment on fake- or other nesses.
And anyway, God's dead isn't he? And anyway, it's all a lie isn't it?
No one consults the historical manual.
Christianity lost the urge and Islam never had it.
Serious thinkers still have a measure of it!
But they don't dare for fear of treading on the toes of political correctmess [sic.].
Ok, so let us consult the manual now.
God, you know the one who made everything including that tiny dot in space called earth, yes that one, not Israel's God, because there is only one and He only used them for a little while as a temporary measure to fix what needed fixing after Adam botched it.
OK? Right? Well, God freed the seed of Abraham Israel, you know the one he produced with his wife Sarah; not his other seed through Sarah's servant girl Hagar. Got it? OK? Right.
After God, you know the one referred to above who actually has a name to distinguish Him from all man-made pretenders, freed THE Seed of Abraham from out of Egypt; the other seed were never slaves in Egypt anyway to have a need to be freed from Egypt, because they were not the ones kept as slaves by Egypt in Egypt. Got it? OK? Right.
Do I seem to patronise anyone here? Seems that way, yes?
Well, just think about the childish stupidity of using the immature behaviour of the ignorant poorly educated Israelites in the context of their God-assigned role to remove uncooperative and exceedingly wicked tribes from the land promised to Abraham's seed as an excuse to justify their inhumanity of conquest.
The baseline of everything is TRUST in all of Jehovah's promises and the rightness of His decisions.
He kept His promises to Adam. Absolutely!
‘you will certainly die if you take what is not yours to take.’ Adam did!
Likewise, if he had not taken and eaten we would be able to speak with Adam even now J.
L Well, actually we could not have individually, simply because we would not have existed due to the changed chain of procreative descent. No one has ever been pre-determined by God to exist. We are all an accident of lust, notwithstanding religious nonsense to the contrary.
For a bit of background of the need for Israel's conquests of the promised land here from Genesis 15:13-16:
13 And God said to Abram, "Know for certain that your descendants will be strangers in a land that is not theirs, where they will be enslaved and oppressed four hundred years. 14 "But I will also judge the nation whom they will serve; and afterward they will come out with many possessions. 15 "And as for you, you shall go to your fathers in peace; you shall be buried at a good old age. 16 "Then in the fourth generation they shall return here, for the iniquity of the Amorite is not yet complete."
I am going to quote here from a biblical encyclopaedia produced by the WTB&TS (Jehovah's Witnesses) without their express permission, while aware of our common interest in the sanctification of God's name, purpose and word in connection with the matters discussed herein:
Insight on the Scriptures Volume -1 pages 402-404 Canaan
Why did Jehovah decree the extermination of the Canaanites?
The historical account shows that the populations of the Canaanite cities conquered by the Israelites were subjected to complete destruction. (Nu 21:1-3, 34, 35; Jos 6:20, 21; 8:21-27; 10:26-40; 11:10-14) This fact has been used by some critics as a means for depicting the Hebrew Scriptures, or “Old Testament,” as imbued with a spirit of cruelty and wanton slaughter. The issue involved, however, is clearly that of whether God’s sovereignty over the earth and its inhabitants is acknowledged or not. He had deeded over the right of tenure of the land of Canaan to the ‘seed of Abraham,’ doing so by an oath-bound covenant. (Ge 12:5-7; 15:17-21; compare De 32:8; Ac 17:26.) But more than a mere eviction or dispossessing of the existing tenants of that land was purposed by God. His right to act as “Judge of all the earth” (Ge 18:25) and to decree the sentence of capital punishment upon those found meriting it, as well as his right to implement and enforce the execution of such decree, was also involved.
The justness of God’s prophetic curse on Canaan found full confirmation in the conditions that had developed in Canaan by the time of the Israelite conquest. Jehovah had allowed 400 years from Abraham’s time for the ‘error of the Amorites to come to completion.’ (Ge 15:16) The fact that Esau’s Hittite wives were “a source of bitterness of spirit to Isaac and Rebekah” to the extent that Rebekah had ‘come to abhor her life because of them’ is certainly an indication of the badness already manifest among the Canaanites. (Ge 26:34, 35; 27:46) During the centuries that followed, the land of Canaan became saturated with detestable practices of idolatry, immorality, and bloodshed. The Canaanite religion was extraordinarily base and degraded, their “sacred poles” evidently being phallic symbols, and many of the rites at their “high places” involving gross sexual excesses and depravity. (Ex 23:24; 34:12, 13; Nu 33:52; De 7:5) Incest, sodomy, and bestiality were part of ‘the way of the land of Canaan’ that made the land unclean and for which error it was due to “vomit its inhabitants out.” (Le 18:2-25) Magic, spellbinding, spiritism, and sacrifice of their children by fire were also among the Canaanites’ detestable practices.—De 18:9-12.
Baal was the most prominent of the deities worshiped by the Canaanites. (Jg 2:12, 13; compare Jg 6:25-32; 1Ki 16:30-32.) The Canaanite goddesses Ashtoreth (Jg 2:13; 10:6; 1Sa 7:3, 4), Asherah, and Anath are presented in an Egyptian text as both mother-goddesses and as sacred prostitutes who, paradoxically, remain ever-virgin (literally, “the great goddesses who conceive but do not bear”). Their worship apparently was invariably involved with the services of temple prostitutes. These goddesses symbolized the quality not only of sexual lust but also of sadistic violence and warfare. Thus, the goddess Anath is depicted in the Baal Epic from Ugarit as effecting a general slaughter of men and then decorating herself with suspended heads and attaching men’s hands to her girdle while she joyfully wades in their blood. The figurines of the goddess Ashtoreth that have been discovered in Palestine are of a nude woman with rudely exaggerated sex organs. Of their phallic worship, archaeologist W. F. Albright observes that: “At its worst, . . . the erotic aspect of their cult must have sunk to extremely sordid depths of social degradation.”—Archaeology and the Religion of Israel, 1968, pp. 76, 77; see ASHTORETH; BAAL No. 4.
Added to their other degrading practices was that of child sacrifice. According to Merrill F. Unger: “Excavations in Palestine have uncovered piles of ashes and remains of infant skeletons in cemeteries around heathen altars, pointing to the widespread practice of this cruel abomination.” (Archaeology and the Old Testament, 1964, p. 279) Halley’s Bible Handbook (1964, p. 161) says: “Canaanites worshipped, by immoral indulgence, as a religious rite, in the presence of their gods; and then, by murdering their first-born children, as a sacrifice to these same gods. It seems that, in large measure, the land of Canaan had become a sort of Sodom and Gomorrah on a national scale. . . . Did a civilization of such abominable filth and brutality have any right longer to exist? . . . Archaeologists who dig in the ruins of Canaanite cities wonder that God did not destroy them sooner than he did.”—PICTURE, Vol. 1, p. 739.
Jehovah had exercised his sovereign right to execute the sentence of death upon the wicked population of the entire planet at the time of the global Flood; he had done so with regard to the entire District of the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah because of ‘the loud cry of complaint about them and their very heavy sin’ (Ge 18:20; 19:13); he had executed a decree of destruction upon Pharaoh’s military forces at the Red Sea; he had also exterminated the households of Korah and other rebels among the Israelites themselves. However, in these cases, God had employed natural forces to accomplish the destruction. By contrast, Jehovah now assigned to the Israelites the sacred duty of serving as principal executioners of his divine decree, guided by his angelic messenger and backed by God’s almighty power. (Ex 23:20-23, 27, 28; De 9:3, 4; 20:15-18; Jos 10:42) The results, nevertheless, were precisely the same to the Canaanites as if God had chosen to destroy them by some phenomenon such as a flood, fiery explosion, or earthquake, and the fact that human agents effected the putting to death of the condemned peoples, however unpleasant their task may seem, cannot alter the rightness of the divinely ordained action. (Jer 48:10) By using this human instrument, pitted against “seven nations more populous and mighty” than they were, Jehovah’s power was magnified and his Godship proved.—De 7:1; Le 25:38.
The Canaanites were not ignorant of the powerful evidence that Israel was God’s chosen people and instrument. (Jos 2:9-21, 24; 9:24-27) However, with the exception of Rahab and her family and the cities of the Gibeonites, those who came in for destruction neither sought mercy nor availed themselves of the opportunity to flee, but instead they chose to harden themselves in rebellion against Jehovah. He did not force them to bend and give in to his expressed will but, rather, “let their hearts become stubborn so as to declare war against Israel, in order that he might devote them to destruction, that they might come to have no favorable consideration, but in order that he might annihilate them” in execution of his judgment against them.—Jos 11:19, 20.
In context with the above, it must be remembered that capital punishment had always been authorised by God -Romans 13:1-4.
Israel behaved so badly and without faith in spite of what God had just done for them, that Jehovah (King James 1611) just had to keep His promises to them.
To see what he had promised Israel, please click on this link.
Whatever He promises, He will carry out. Isaiah 55:8-11 confirms that.
Just a brief look at the foundation of the faiths of others:
As for The Koran, it teaches, among other things, the following [taken from the above translation]:
1. -the beating of one's wife (4:34,35)
2. -easy divorce (2:226-232; 65:1)
3. -the having of more than one wife (polygamy), (4:1-5)
4. -a fixed predestined life-span for every human (3:144,145)
5. -that God created man to try him with afflictions (90:1-7)
6. -that God actually seduced Satan to do all his terrible deeds (15:40-45)
7. -that God led Satan into sin (7:16,17)
8. -that Jesus preached already from his cradle (5:110,111; 19:29,30)
9. -of eternal hell fire and torture for the wicked (15:19-31; 18:29;
22:19-23; 40:70,71,73; 43:73;
10. -the wicked not only scourged in Hell forever, but also made to drink
scalding hot water, festering blood and other putrid things (38:57,58)
11. -God continuously renews the skins of those in hell, so that they could continue
to feel the pain of their scourging (4:37)
12. -that warring against the unbelievers is acceptable (4:73-76, 94-96; 9:73; 48:29:30)
13. -that fighting is obligatory (2:190-216)
14. -that Adam was forgiven (20:119-124)
15. -eating of blood forbidden, BUT OK if hungry (2:173; 5:3)
16. -thieves have both hands cut off (5:35,) (may be forgiven later,
but hands not re-attached)
17. -fighters against God and those creating disorder, have one foot and
hand cut off on alternate sides (5:33,34)
It is also stated in the Koran that:
The Koran confirms previous Scriptures and provides an explanation of all things
(12:111; 2:88-91; 4:47,48; 5:48,49; 10:35-38; 46:10-14)
On the basis of that claim, it cannot at the same time totally contradict what God has caused to be written in these previous Scriptures.
I would gladly point to these previous Scriptures in the most exquisite detail to furnish ample support for this claim of contradiction.
A measure of familiarisation with these previous Scriptures, the Bible, would establish that:
1. -there is but one God (monotheism)
2. -Jesus was neither God, nor divine or even an angel, but rather no more than a human being and the exact equal in quality and value to Adam, as the Koran so rightly says (3:59)
3. -there is total cessation of all function at death
4. -death is the penalty or punishment for Israel’s sin or transgression against their, and only their Law, their due wages, as it were.
Like in any justice system, once that wage is paid and the punishment executed at
death, the person has paid for all his sins during his life and has thus been acquitted
through death. -Romans 6:7
No one is ever paid two wages for the same work, nor would any court sentence a person to death twice for the same offence. Oh yeah – like when you're dead you're dead, right? Yeah!
5. -man was created in God's image, God's outstanding qualities being Power, Wisdom, Justice and Love. This means, that, since we humans would not fiendishly torture an animal or another person even for a minute, let alone forever, God would even be less likely to consign sinners to the tortures of Hell forever or even a minute.
Even within the context of the false doctrine of inherited sin, because the punishment for sin was total nonexistence in death, eternal life even in hell would thus be contrary to the death sentence and in fact constitute a reward of continuing life, however painful.
The point is, to become thoroughly familiar with these previous Scriptures, the Bible, in order to make sure just what it is that the Koran is claiming to be confirming and explaining and what it may very well be contradicting.
The Koran also includes many ideas and expressions taken from the Bible and mixing them with Jewish fables, false pagan doctrines and local traditions.
What is more, it, and thus ISLAM, teaches the very doctrines of the people condemned by it: Christians, Catholics, Eastern Orthodox (Greek & Russian), and all Protestant religions. They believe almost exactly as Islam does: ‘Having a soul, hell fire, all going to heaven, final judgement after resurrection of the sins committed before death, earth destroyed.’ What makes Islam any different from Christianity except for its monotheism, which a significant number of Christian sects actually share, and some different rituals and regulations/laws and prohibitions?
Presenting all of this as truth, and without conclusive evidence, certainly does not recommend the Koran as a reliable guide for life. It is, in fact, diametrically opposed to the faith of Abraham, the teachings of Moses and Jesus, and God's eternal purpose.
It may also be good to note: That the Nation of Israel today no longer features in any of God's purposes, except in that He is still dealing with the flock of Jacob within their assigned Great Tribulation in order to bring it to completion as the punishment for not only their persistent transgressions while under the Law of Moses, but also since.
Arab, Jew, Russian, Chinese, German, Greek and whatever the nationality, race or background, are all equal in God's eyes – perfect and completely innocent of that contrived doctrine for control:
Where did Mohammad get all his information for the Koran?
1. Attitudes and traditions of the people around him and his own imagination as an author.
2. False apostate Orthodox Christianity
3. An apostate messenger (angel) pretending to be Gabriel or indeed fictitious, since humans do have a vivid imagination.
4. The Bible
Not much different to the Book of Mormon, written by Joseph Smith?
1. Also influenced by the traditions of the people
2. False apostate Christian Religions
3. Another apostate messenger (angel) called Moroni -most likely entirely fictitious
(should really take the i out of that one)
4. The Bible
Both Islam and Mormonism make equal claims:
Islam and Mormonism are daughters of the already apostate, infidel Bride of Christ: Christianity
Apostate Christianity has nothing to recommend it other than an inestimable amount of spilled blood that culminated in the monumental wars of the 20th century where Christian fought Christian all in the name of God without His authority or backing.
Sure, Israel was used by God to to remove or incorporate some of the tribes in the land promised to Abraham. Why? Because God Keeps His Promises. But He also used Babylon, Persia and Rome to punish Israel for their transgressions of the Law their rejection of Him. The Great Tribulation and Judgement that began in 70 CE is also entirely about Israel, not mankind.
Humanity does not need to be judged. There is no basis for such judgement, since no Law existed for them to define right, wrong and the consequences.
What about the Islamic killing sprees that pre-empted that of the Catholic Conquistadors who killed maimed, raided, treasure-hunted and conquered - all in the name of a God who never sent them - with Christianity's World Wars the icing on the tribal/religious cake/take?
All these people are dead now. They will however be restored to life, but NOT to be judged for the good or bad deeds of their past, but what they will do thereafter. Will they all now want to live peaceful lives and structure them accordingly?
It is absolutely essential to make sure of the facts and not to succumb to blind faith or believe everything a culture may have insisted on to practice. That includes the culture of atheism.
Our very future depends upon it, because our attitudes need to be modified in keeping with God's standards for good citizenship, which Judeo-Christianity have largely failed to conform to for much of the Messianic age.
In keeping with Jehovah's inimitable justice, every human past present and future, with perhaps a few outstanding exceptions, will get an opportunity to decide their own future for themselves, whatever their past history.
Thank you for considering this.
God's Plan according to:
the Book of Mormon (2. Nephi 2:22-25†; Alma: 42:5,6‡):
Koran (Sura 90:1-7*; 15:40-45#)
(and, in a way, even the apostate Christian theory, or doctrine, of Election)
One day in the land of history, perhaps millions of years ago, long before man was created, God had this fantastically ingenious idea: A PLAN OF SALVATION!
The only trouble with that was, there was nothing to save. Imagine the disruptive nature of this flash of genius. Here he had been living for billions of years in peace, and now, nothing but agony.
So God kept on wondering for a long time how he could ever make use of this wonderful plan. Someone just had to sin!. Who would it be?
Suddenly another blinding flash of genius: ADAM! We'll create a man called Adam and somehow make him sin, so that the plan of salvation will not be wasted.
So God in his infinite wisdom sent a snake (Satan) to do the dirty deed - and . . . .
Hooray! It worked! Success at last!
And so the ultimate use for this grand plan of salvation was set in motion, and was eventually fulfilled.
And they lived miserably ever after. . .
. . or so their stories go.
Alas, the Bible totally disagrees with this ridiculous and perfectly unjust doctrine:
James 1:13-15: 13 When under trial, let no one say: "I am being tried by God." For with evil things God cannot be tried nor does he himself try anyone. 14 But each one is tried by being drawn out and enticed by his own desire. 15 Then the desire, when it has become fertile, gives birth to sin; in turn, sin, when it has been accomplished, brings forth death.
Two key qualities of man –the species- are: Choice and Learning. We choose our future. We base our choices on what we have learned, but only after choosing the teaching medium. We are entirely in charge of our own future.
Nothing about our lives is pre-determined or even foreknown. To reach any destination one must get on the road in the first place. Choice of destination, road and means of transport is entirely ours. Check the roadmap/street-directory first. Make sure you choose the right one. Melway is useless in Sydney, as is a roadmap of Victoria in Luxembourg. Choices! Choices! Choices!
The roadmap to choose is the workshop manual for the human machine –the Bible.
The Koran, the book of Mormon or any other so-called ‘holy’ book will misdirect us, since these are not authored by the Creator of the Universe, the only one who made and knows the road.
Though humans may have fiddled with it, the Bible is mankind's only road map.
The Book of Mormon
From the mistaken and unscriptural perspective of the soul’s immortality and that sex was the sin
2 Nephi 2:22-25
22 And now, behold, if Adam had not transgressed he would not have fallen, but he would have remained in the garden of Eden. And all things which were created must have remained in the same state in which they were after they were created; and they must have remained forever, and had no end.
23 And they would have had no children; wherefore they would have remained in a state of innocence, having no joy, for they knew no misery; doing no good, for they knew no sin.
24 But behold, all things have been done in the wisdom of him who knoweth all things.
25 Adam fell that men might be; and men are, that they might have joy.
5 For behold, if Adam had put forth his hand immediately, and partaken of the tree of life, he would have lived forever, according to the word of God, having no space for repentance; yea, and also the word of God would have been void, and the great plan of salvation would have been frustrated.
6 But behold, it was appointed unto man to die‑therefore, as they were cut off from the tree of life they should be cut off from the face of the earth‑and man became lost forever, yea, they became fallen man.
7 And now, ye see by this that our first parents were cut off both temporally and spiritually from the presence of the Lord; and thus we see they became subjects to follow after their own will
8 Now behold, it was not expedient that man should be reclaimed from this temporal death, for that would destroy the great plan of happiness.
9 Therefore, as the soul could never die, and the fall had brought upon all mankind a spiritual death as well as a temporal, that is, they were cut off from the presence of the Lord, it was expedient that mankind should be reclaimed from this spiritual death.
10 Therefore, as they had become carnal, sensual, and devilish, by nature, this probationary state became a state for them to prepare; it became a preparatory state.
The Qu ran
that God created man to try him with afflictions -- that God seduced Satan to do wicked deeds
(Sura 90:1-7) (Sura 15:40-45)
On the basis of what is known about other tribal historians and especially the old Christian copyists, I am certainly of the opinion that some online and printed translations of the Quran, as well those in Arabic script, have been suitably modified to appeal to and attract new converts from the gentler souls out of Christianity and other gentile tribes.
Oh, but for the machinations of the tribal mindset.
Isn't it gracious of Jehovah our God and Creator to allow human beings of the tribal religious kind to continue to paint themselves into corners without exit?
May we look forward to the end of that global administrative madness and that all weapons of mass-distraction will soon fade into their own nothingness.
Please continue your exploration