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Separating the Goats from the Sheep Matthew 25:31-46

I like to give special attention to this prophetic parable because of the variety of interpretations by different ‘Christian’ denominations.

Some see it as: A two-tiered heavenly destiny for the saved; while still others envisage:
 Two ultimate destinies for humanity — The Saved and The Destroyed.  

Since all of Scripture, from Adam's refusal to cooperate to the end of Revelation, is about Israel as the only means chosen by Jehovah to restore Adam's original opportunities to every human being past, present and future embedded in His sworn oath promise to Abraham for his seed to bless all the families of the earth, the key verses in Matthew 25 need to be seen in exactly that context  – see Hebrews 7.


Let us now read and analyse the relevant verses of the separation.


Now for a slightly different approach to the same question:


You are surely familiar with Jesus' wonderful resurrection scenario prophecy in

John 5:28-29: here from the 1901 American Standard Version:

Marvel not at this: for the hour cometh, in which all that are in the tombs* shall hear his voice,  29 and shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life*; and they that have done evil*, unto the resurrection of judgment*.

This beautiful prophecy, that has encouraged millions now for almost 18 Centuries, is a wicked lie in the way Christianity applies it to humanity's dead.

There was no need for Jesus, who had only come for the flock of Jacob Israel, to deal with a general resurrection already having a been-there-done-that presence in the Old Testament.

Mankind's salvation has no presence in the NT.  Saving Israel was the indispensable yet secondary objective within Jehovah's primary purpose for them to become a blessing to all the families of the earth.

Nothing more needs to be said about a resurrection of all humans gone before.

It is just going to happen without anyone needing to worry about their own good-enough-ness.  No one needs to qualify.  It is part of our heritage as sons of Adam and Eve in the imbedded promises for them to fill the earth with his offspring, take care of it and potentially live forever.  While Adam messed that up for himself, all of their children, as well as Eve*, shall be given that opportunity, because they are not guilty and sinners by default.

* she, unlike Adam, was deceived: 1 Timothy 2:14:  Also Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived, and was in transgression. Every rendering of that verse was badly structured in an attempt to blame women.  Alas, it was Adam who was in transgression of God's command, not Eve.  The verse ought to read: Also Adam was not deceived and was in transgression, but the woman was deceived.  or Also Adam was not deceived, but was in transgression, and the woman was deceived.  The two Greek words used here (Strong's 1161 and 2532) can both be translated and or but.  It matters little to me but don’t blame the women; they have enough to contend with.

Strong's Online Bible definitions referenced from the above verses:

(The AV definitions are not actual word definitions, but merely the translators' usage based on doctrine perceptions of his time)

*tombs
3419 mnhmeion mnemeion mnay-mi'-on

from 3420; TDNT-4:680,596; n n

AV-sepulchre 29, grave 8, tomb 5; 42

1) any visible object for preserving or recalling the memory of any person or thing

1a) a memorial, monument, specifically, a sepulchral monument

2) a sepulchre, a tomb

sepulchres, and tombs are most familiar only to Jews and those who have inherited their customs i.e. Christians and Muslims.

*life
2222 zwh zoe dzo-ay'

from 2198; TDNT-2:832,290; n f

AV-life 133, lifetime 1; 134

1) life

1a) the state of one who is possessed of vitality or is animate

1b) every living soul

2) life

2a) of the absolute fulness of life, both essential and ethical, which belongs to God, and through him both to the hypostatic "logos" and to Christ in whom the "logos" put on human nature

2b) life real and genuine, a life active and vigorous, devoted to God, blessed, in the portion even in this world of those who put their trust in Christ, but after the resurrection to be consummated by new accessions (among them a more perfect body), and to last for ever.

It is not about just living again, but about a very special kind of life along the lines of definition 2, without that Logos nonsense.

*evil
5337 faulov phaulos fow'-los

apparently a primary word; ; adj

AV-evil 4; 4

1) easy, slight, ordinary, mean, worthless, of no account

2) ethically, bad, base, wicked

The German word for lazy faul comes from that Greek word in keeping with the definitions of the Greek original.

*judgment
2920 krisiv krisis kree'-sis

perhaps a primitive word; TDNT-3:941,469; n f

AV-judgment 41, damnation 3, accusation 2, condemnation 2; 48* -see below

1) a separating, sundering, separation

1a) a trial, contest

2) selection

3) judgment

3a) opinion or decision given concerning anything

3a1) esp. concerning justice and injustice, right or wrong

3b) sentence of condemnation, damnatory judgment, condemnation and punishment

4) the college of judges (a tribunal of seven men in the several cities of Palestine; as distinguished from the Sanhedrin, which had its seat at Jerusalem)

5) right, justice

* This is how it is used by most translators, but it is not the actual definition, which should have been used, for it perfectly reflects the same judgment criteria used by the Christ in his separating the sheep from the goats.


But wait, there are more doctrinal twists wickedly extracted from Scripture to perpetuate that lie by contriving to use the Lord's selection of the members of Jehovah's heavenly Kingdom Government to mean a universal judgement of humanity, said to be wicked, guilty sinners.

So what did they do but also commandeer the sheep from goats verses to substantiate their wicked claims.  Since most of these potential sheep and goats are already dead, they would need to be resurrected.  This certainly means that the resurrection verses of John 5:28-29 are inexorably linked to those describing the separation of the sheep from the goats in
Matthew 25:31-34; 41; 46.

Here from the World English Bible a public domain modern rendering of the 1901 American Standard Version wherein I have rendered a couple of key words to accurately reflect the correct meaning and intent of the original Greek words.

But first the chronological setting of the heavenly manifestation of the Messiah coming with power and great glory prophetically recorded here in Matthew 24:29-31 within which the sheep/goats separation is taking place:

29 But immediately after the tribulation of those days, the sun will be darkened, the moon will not give its light, the stars will fall from the heavens, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken;  30 and then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky. Then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky with power and great glory.  31 He will send out his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together his chosen ones from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other.

and then continues on thematically into chapter 25:31-34; 41; 46 with the how of that gathering:

31 “But when the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then he will sit on the throne of his glory.  32 Before him all the people* will be gathered, and he will separate them one from another, as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats.  33 He will set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.  34 Then the King will tell those on his right hand, ‘Come, blessed of my Father, inherit the Kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world of Israel*;

41 Then he will say also to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from me, you cursed*, into the eternal fire which is prepared for the devil and his angels;

46 These will go away into eternal pruning off,**but the righteous into eternal life.”

* All those permanently pruned off from the Israel olive tree of Romans 11 will absolutely retain the original opportunity open to all humans to live on earth indefinitely under the rule of all the branches of the entire Israel olive tree constituting the Kingdom of God.

Only the people who had originally come to the Christ from out of forgiven Israel and Gentile proselytes on the basis of these definitive words in John chapter 6: 44-45  No man can come to me, unless the Father who sent me, shall draw him; and I will raise him up at the last day.
45 For it is written, in the prophet: And they shall all be taught of God. Whoever, therefore, heareth from the Father, and learneth from him, cometh to me
are gathered for final selection of the sheep to be permanently grafted into the Israel olive tree of Romans 11.

     The difference between the sheep and the goats is simply their destinies:

1. heavenly governance for the sheep and

2. an opportunity for life on earth along with the rest of humanity,
death not being one of them.

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End Notes and the references from the above verses of Matthew 25

Please note that AV definitions are generally not the actual word definitions, but merely the translators' usage based on the doctrine perceptions of his time.


Here are the Strong's Online Bible definitions referenced from the sheep/goats parable:

*people
1484 eynov ethnos eth'-nos

probably from 1486; TDNT-2:364,201; n n

AV-Gentiles 93, nation 64, heathen 5, people 2; 164  rarely nation the intent or even Gentiles – Context! Context! Audience relevance of considerable significance, while God’s purpose the prime determiner.

1) a multitude (whether of men or of beasts) associated or living together

1a) a company, troop, swarm

2) a multitude of individuals of the same nature or genus

2a) the human family

3) a tribe, nation, people group

4) in the OT, foreign nations not worshipping the true God, pagans, Gentiles

5) Paul uses the term for Gentile Christians


*the world of Israel
2889 kosmov kosmos kos'-mos

probably from the base of 2865; TDNT-3:868,459; n m

AV-world 186, adorning 1; 187

1) an apt and harmonious arrangement or constitution, order, government.
The world and Kingdom of Israel.

2) ornament, decoration, adornment,  #1Pe 3:3   —
Israel the wife and adornment of Jehovah

This definition: i.e... the arrangement of the stars, ‘the heavenly hosts’, as the ornament of the heavens  is unlikely to have come from Strong, because it is not the Bible's.

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Inserted the above line to separate reality from doctrinal conjecture based on the false inherited sin doctrine.  Everything hereunder refers to the world of Israel Jesus was neither a part of nor ought the anointed Israel of God.  


3) the world, the universe

4) the circle of the earth, the earth

5) the inhabitants of the earth, men, the human family

6) the ungodly multitude; the whole mass of men alienated from God, and therefore hostile to the cause of Christ

7) world affairs, the aggregate of things earthly

7a) the whole circle of earthly goods, endowments riches, advantages, pleasures, etc, which although hollow and frail and fleeting, stir desire, seduce from God and are obstacles to the cause of Christ

8) any aggregate or general collection of particulars of any sort

8a) the Gentiles as contrasted to the Jews (#Ro 11:12 etc)

8b) of believers only, #John 1:29; 3:16; 3:17; 6:33; 12:47 #1Co 4:9; 2Co 5:19

In keeping with God's purpose and His overall theme of saving the seed of Abraham to fulfil the promises for them to be a blessing to al the families of the earth, kosmos invariably means the world of Israel - note 1 & 2 above, while the world of mankind i.e. the entire inhabited earth finds expression in an entirely different Greek word: Strong's 3625 oikoumene
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Items 3-8 above are largely interpretive as in how used and understood in the prevailing doctrinal mindset of Christianity's false inherited sin doctrine.

Here particularly from the printed version: Strong's Expanded Dictionary of Bible Words not entirely free from conjecture:

 Kosmos is first a harmonious arrangement or order, then by extension, adornment or decoration, and came to denote the world, or the universe, as that which is divinely arranged. It came to mean anyone not of the ekklasia (1577). Kosmos, primarily "order, arrangement, ornament, adornment" is used to denote . . .

and here from: The Complete Word Study Dictionary of the New Testament by Spiros Zodhiates not entirely free from conjecture because all were influenced by the status quo of doctrinal perceptions:

2889kosmov  kosmos masc.noun probably from komeo (n.f.), to take care of.  World, with its primary meaning being order, regular disposition and arrangement.

(1) A decoration, ornament (I Pet. 3:3; Sept.: Ex. 33:4-6; Jer. 4:30).


——— here again the identity mix-up on the basis of humanity’s alleged inherited sin ———


(II) Order of the universe, the world.

(A) The universe, heavens and earth (Matt. 13:35; 24:21; Luke 11:50; John  17:5, 24; Acts 17:24; Rom. 1:20; Heb. 4:3). Metonym for the inhabitants of the universe (I Cor. 4:9). Figuratively and symbolically, a world of something, as an aggregate such as in James 3:6, "a world of iniquity" (cf. Sept.: Prov. 17:6).


Even here “a world of iniquity” refers to the absolutely wicked unyielding firstborn son (Exodus 4:22) of God Israel for whom Jesus the sheep had been sacrificed and described here ever so accurately by Jehovah in Isaiah chapter 1:

2 Hear, O heavens, and give ear, O earth; for Jehovah hath spoken: I have nourished and brought up children, and they have rebelled against me.  3 The ox knoweth his owner, and the ass his master’s crib; but Israel doth not know, my people doth not consider.  4 Ah sinful nation, a people laden with iniquity, a seed of evil–doers, children that deal corruptly! they have forsaken Jehovah, they have despised the Holy One of Israel, they are estranged and gone backward.  5 Why will ye be still stricken, that ye revolt more and more? the whole head is sick, and the whole heart faint.  6 From the sole of the foot even unto the head there is no soundness in it; but wounds, and bruises, and fresh stripes: they have not been closed, neither bound up, neither mollified with oil.  ASV


*cursed
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*pruning off
2851 kolasiv kolasis kol'-as-is

from 2849; TDNT-3:816,451; n f

AV-punishment 1, torment 1; 2  in the context of the entire subject, a torment or regret only relative to what could have been: “If only I had . . . “

1) correction, punishment, penalty  death only to a condition or place, a change as a correction or reduction in value or station.

And finally here from: The Complete Word Study Dictionary of the New Testament by Spiros Zodhiates, not entirely free from conjecture because all were influenced by the status quo of doctrinal perceptions:


While acknowledging correction and bettering of the offender, Spiros Zodhiates does a great leap of faith to the accepted doctrines in the context of his religious education and the alleged guilt of humanity that leads to eternal death or torture unless saved by their alleged saviour Jesus Christ. In consequence, he changes the meaning of the Greek words from a beneficial pruning of the Romans 11 Israel tree to everlasting damnation for violating the eternal law of God.

The géenna connection simply indicates the removal from the collective memory of Israel of anyone thrown into that rubbish dump outside Jerusalem.  Some have it that they are also erased from God's memory for a possible resurrection.

That is profoundly erroneous, since death acquits the sinner  Romans 6:7.   What is the meaning of that verse?

Simply, that Israel's collective sins against their Law covenant had now been annulled through dying in their final atonement and second Passover lamb Jesus - Israel's Redemption!




End of this examination of the sheep/goats separation/resurrection issue.

 More sheep matters elsewhere

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Matthew 25:31-34; 41; 46


31 But when the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the angels with him, then shall he sit on the throne of his glory:


32 and before him shall be gathered all the nations: <1484> and he shall separate them one from another, as the shepherd separateth the sheep from the goats <2056>;

Greek: Strong's 1484 eynov ethnos

probably from 1486; n n

AV-Gentiles 93, nation 64, heathen 5, people 2; 164

The meaning of the Greek however:

1) a multitude (whether of men or of beasts) associated or living together

1a) a company, troop, swarm

2) a multitude of individuals of the same nature or genus

2a) the human family

3) a tribe, nation, people group


Often wonder if translators use dartboards to determine usage.


33 and he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats <2055> on the left.

34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world <2889>:

2889 kosmov kosmos

probably from the base of 2865; TDNT-3:868,459; n m

1) an apt and harmonious arrangement or constitution, order, government

2) ornament, decoration, adornment, i.e. the arrangement of the stars, 'the heavenly hosts', as the ornament of the heavens.

All about Israel, the only people ever to receive a government from Jehovah and who also became an ornament and decoration of her Husband Jehovah,

41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into the eternal <166>  fire which is prepared for the devil and his angels:

166 aiwniov aionios


From the noun 165 meaning Epoch, Age, which is usually commandeered by the Christian guilt industry to mean either world or everlasting to support their nonsense.

46 And these shall go away into eternal <166> punishment <2851>but the righteous into eternal life.

2851 kolasiv kolasis

from 2849; TDNT-3:816,451; n f

AV-punishment 1, torment 1; 2

1) correction, punishment, penalty


Note the Authorized Version's rendering correction and penalty are relevant here.  First of all that word kolasis  in the context.

2849 kolazw kolazo

from kolos (dwarf); TDNT-3:814,451; v

AV-punish 2; 2

1) to lop or prune, as trees and wings

2) to curb, check, restrain


Note how the AV translators had fallen into the guilt-trap with an insistence on punishment, whereas the base meaning is one of pruning, where the tree receives beneficial correction not the lopped‑off branches.

My Comments


That coming in his glory is yet for the near future when the Christ manifests himself at the terminus of the Great Tribulation upon the fleshly flock of Jacob/Israel.

‑Matthew 24:29-31: 29  ‘And immediately after the tribulation of those days, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from the heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken;  30 and then shall appear the sign of the Son of Man in the heaven; and then shall all the tribes of the earth smite the breast, and they shall see the Son of Man coming upon the clouds of the heaven, with power and much glory;  31 and he shall send his messengers (angels) with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his chosen from the four winds, from the ends of the heavens unto the ends thereof.  YLT

No, all the nations WILL NOT  be gathered before him.

This is a guilt-industry construct almost all translators have fallen victim to, so as to imply inherited sin and the judgment of wicked mankind, or so the story goes.

Israel was/is the sinner/transgressor, not humanity.

Although redeemed via their final Atonement sacrifice and saved from extinction as a people of God through their second Passover lamb Jesus, they still need to free themselves from Israel's cursed condition by individually demonstrating throughout their lives that they had accepted their Christ and redeemer.  The Christ simply allows the goats to return to Israel's cursed condition.

All humans into all eternity who wantonly refuse to yield to Jehovah's sovereign oversight in cooperation, will ultimately be assigned to nonexistence symbolized by that eternal fire, if indeed that passage is referring to that rather than to the eternal fire of Jehovah's anger with Israel's wilful disobedience.

The fire of Jehovah's anger would soon enough (from the time of Jesus' prophetic words in Matthew 24 and 25) be given profound expression in Israel's Great Tribulation commencing at the hands of the Roman armies in 70CE.

That Great Tribulation along with Israel's cursed condition, will continue until Christ's final age of pruning of engrafting and cutting off the branches of the Israel olive tree of Romans 11, which is what verse 46 is really all about.

Those who had become goat-branches, after having initially accepted their redemption, but later lost faith or misbehaved, were now pruned away into the families of the earth for a possible blessing by those sheep-like Israel branches of the heavenly Kingdom - entirely their choice.

Those viewed righteous in their continuing effort to do Jehovah's will, which is what righteousness is actually all about (Malachi 3:18) remain in the Israel Olive Tree or may be engrafted at the last moment, so that the full number of 144000 kings and Priests finally chosen, can ascend their thrones at the imminent birth of the heavenly Kingdom.

The interpolated numbers in the quoted texts in the adjacent column are from Strong's Expanded Dictionary of Bible Words.

The meanings attached to these definitions include their use and misuse in the Authorized King James Version, which is also the case with many other translations.

Bible translators were/are frequently doctrine driven by that ubiquitous universal sin delusion imposed upon mankind by the Christian Guilt Industry for Power, Prestige and Pay extracted from their servile flocks.



Note:

The passages in Matthew 24 & 25 deal with the same event and only the people originally given the opportunity for heavenly kingship,* the people Israel, who are here gathered before the Christ for him to separate those who shall inherit that kingdom from those considered unfit.

* Exodus 19:3-8

A very important and absolutely essential insight on the words commonly translated goats in verses 32 and 33 of Matthew 25:

Strong's <2056> in verse 32 is the masculine noun

erifov eriphos er'-if-os  1) a kid, a young goat

whereas in verse 33 it is the neuter noun <2055>

2055 erifion eriphion er-if'-ee-on  from 2056;

1) a kid, a young goat  irrespective of gender.

These verses are not dealing with the wicked God-defying, dishonouring mass of humanity destined to destruction as alleged by self-seeking apostates.

My Goodness!  How disgusting and wicked of the leaders of the Christian flocks who actually are the very ones fitting the description God-defying and dishonouring!

These little kids of goats in Jesus' parable are those who don't quite make it into the little flock to be given the Kingdom and have their heavenly aspirations and heartfelt yearning for a place with the Christ in the Kingdom of their desires become reality.

They will just continue as they were with the prospect of living forever on earth under the benign supervision of that Kingdom of Heaven.

Let it be noted that Goats do not play a minor role in scripture. Whenever a sheep/lamb was unavailable, a goat/kid would suffice adequately for sacrificial purposes. In the entire bible, Sheep are those of the flock of Jacob, God's inheritance. The difference is merely one of temperament and in Matthew 25:46 just one of destiny, whereas in 1 John 4:18 the fear is one of sorrow, sadness or emotional 'torment' of those of the Little flock* who were called to the Kingdom but not chosen to remain in the Israel tree of Romans 11 by having been cut-off or pruned away, but whose destiny could continue forever in the flesh on earth under that kingdom, subject only to the small print of continuing, willing cooperation.

* Luke 12:32