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The Lord’s Prayer


9 "This, then, is how you should pray: "‘Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name, 10 your kingdom come, your will be done on earth as it is in heaven.  11 Give us today our daily bread.  12 Forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors.  13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one.’  Matthew 6:9-13

Who was addressed here and whose Lord was addressing them?

To understand this most important and misunderstood directive given to Jesus' Disciples:

(Matthew 28:19-20)  19 Go therefore and make disciples of people of all** the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded you. And, look! I am with you all the days until the conclusion of the system of things.”  NWT

* from OLB Strong's:

3956 pav pas pas

including all the forms of declension; TDNT-5:886,795; adj

KJ Authorized Version-all 748, all things 170, every 117, all men 41, whosoever 31, everyone 28, whole 12, all manner of 11, every man 11, no + 3756 9, every thing 7, any 7, whatsoever 6, whosoever + 3739 + 302 3, always + 1223 3, daily + 2250 2, any thing 2, no + 3361 2, not tr 7, misc 26; 1243


1) individually

   1a) each, every, any, all, the whole, everyone, all things, everything

2) collectively

   2a) some of all types  (see 1 Timothy 2:1-6 NWT)

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..." the whole world has gone after him" Did all the world go after Christ?  "then went all Judea, and were baptized of him in Jordan." Was all Judea, or all Jerusalem, baptized in Jordan? "Ye are of God, little children," and the whole world lieth in the wicked one". Does the whole world there mean everybody? The words "world" and "all" are used in some seven or eight senses in Scripture, and it is very rarely the "all" means all persons, taken individually. The words are generally used to signify that Christ has redeemed some of all sorts --some Jews, some Gentiles, some rich, some poor, and has not restricted His redemption to either Jew or Gentile ... (C.H. Spurgeon from a sermon on Particular Redemption)

* that ought to read: from all the nations, because only a little flock were to be selected for governance.


one needs to 1. identify Jesus' audience and  2. what he actually taught them.


Here's for # 1. identify Jesus' audience via Jesus' via his prayer: Our Father in heaven,

Now, who is the Our whose Father Jehovah (the English version) actually is?

For a detailed discussion of plural personal pronouns used by OT prophets and NT writers which identify the actual audience they were/are addressing, please click here.  

At that time Jesus was among fellow Jews/Israelites in the Roman version of what was left of the territory of Israel's glory days: Judea.   He was speaking to Jews with whom he identified himself inclusively with the Our of his prayer.

At what juncture in history did God become their father?  That is the Question, Yes?

Well, right here in Exodus 4:22:
And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith Jehovah, Israel is my son, my first–born: ASV

Yes Israel, the very one to inherit the double portion due a firstborn under the Old Testament*.
* Hebrews 9:15-17 Jerome 347-420; Catholic Douay; KJV; TRC and others when referring to the Law covenant.

OK, so the audience were basically Israel still under the tutor of the Mosaic Law and especially those disciples Jesus addressed as the Little flock to be given the Kingdom by their Father Jehovah (Luke 12:32).  

They were to continue to run with the promises made to the fathers as irrevocably contracted in Exodus 19:3-8.  He later confirmed that first Kingdom Covenant to those who had come out of OT Israel whom He no longer considered a people through their wanton transgressions of the law and stubborn rejection of Him, their Father, prior to their redemption in Jesus, here by Peter, an especially sent one (apostle) to Israel, in his first Epistle 2:9-10:

9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:  10 Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.

Gentiles did not need mercy for never having had a law to transgress requiring forgiveness.

As for #2. what he actually taught them, just go to the whole Sermon on the Mount: here

There you will note that the so-called Lord's Prayer is part of a long discourse primarily directed at his disciples.

Now you may finally grasp what Christ's directive of making disciples actually entailed:

19 Go ye therefore, and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them into the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit:  20 teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I commanded you: and lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. ASV

The rendering make disciples of all the nations  is more of the same re-enslaving nonsense for crowd control.  It should read either literally or convey this clear interpretation:

19 Go ye therefore, and make disciples from out of all the nations*, baptizing them into the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit:  20 teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I commanded you: and lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world <165>.*

* Gentiles, people

* NWT renders it System of Things, which is not entirely false, except for want of identifying whose System or world of worship Jesus prophesied about in Matthew 24: Israel's.  

Please note: Nations also includes all those of redeemed Israel, unwilling to respond to Christ by accepting their redemption and thus choose to remain not a people acceptable to God.

You will need to read what lead to that prophecy in Matthew 23/24 and Luke 21.

Was that not in response to the Disciple's extolling the beauty of the Jerusalem's temple and the whole structure of attendant worship? -Matthew 24:1; Luke 21:5.  Yes, it was that system, age, epoch or world of Israel now no longer under the OT but tradition and fashioned into the religion of Judaism by their leaders, which, Jesus said, would terminate at the hands of the Romans and does not identify the secular world of mankind ostensibly and falsely alleged to be run by Satan, which is in fact represented in the NT by an entirely different Greek word (Strong's 3625).

How pathetic!

The Father and God of Israel' leaders, who claimed Abraham as their father, was Satan:  

44 "You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it. NKJV

That fallen Angel was the God of the age, epoch or world of an Israel kept on hold by the tutorage of the Law from their destruction as a viable autonomous kingdom government by Babylon until Messiah*, continuing to resist their Christ (anointed one) ever since.

2 Corinthians 4:4  In whom the god of this world <165> hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. KJV

* Galatians 3:24


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