This beautiful valley of Jezreel/Megiddo will never see an end-time battle
Last site edit: September 21 2017
In defence of the sidelined God Jehovah, Creator of the Universe and Father of Humanity
About the Appointed Times of the Nations/Gentiles.
Quite a stream of conjecture has arisen out of Jesus' prophecies about the end of Israel's epoch under the Law and its aftermath.
Here is that verse generating much of the hype:
Luke 21:24: and they will fall by the edge of the sword, and will be led captive into all the nations*; and Jerusalem will be trampled under foot by the Gentiles* until the times of the Gentiles* be fulfilled. NAS
Luke 21:24) . . . and they will fall by the edge of the sword and be led captive into all the nations*; and Jerusalem will be trampled on by the nations*, until the appointed times of the nations* are fulfilled. NWT
* Strong's 1484
Especially have those expecting a literal return of their Messiah Jesus and a future physical presence of Israel to continue forever in their original promised land come up with a number of fulfilment-scenarios to accommodate their own viewpoints over-painted with the false doctrine of inherited sin as well as the alleged conflict between good and evil and whatever else their imagination has granted them.
These are the verses generally used to establish the end of the Gentile times:
(Ezekiel 21:26) this is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah has said, ‘Remove the turban, and lift off the crown. This will not be the same. Put on high even what is low, and bring low even the high one.
(Ezekiel 21:27) A ruin, a ruin, a ruin I shall make it. As for this also, it will certainly become no [one’s] until he comes who has the legal right, and I must give [it] to him.’
(Daniel 4:25) Daniel's interpretation And you they will be driving away from men, and with the beasts of the field your dwelling will come to be, and the vegetation is what they will give even to you to eat just like bulls; and with the dew of the heavens you yourself will be getting wet, and seven times themselves will pass over you, until you know that the Most High is Ruler in the kingdom of mankind, and that to the one whom he wants to he gives it.
(Daniel 4:10-17) The original dream 10 “‘Now the visions of my head upon my bed I happened to be beholding, and, look! a tree in the midst of the earth, the height of which was immense. 11 The tree grew up and became strong, and its very height finally reached the heavens, and it was visible to the extremity of the whole earth. 12 Its foliage was fair, and its fruit was abundant, and there was food for all on it. Under it the beast of the field would seek shade, and on its boughs the birds of the heavens would dwell, and from it all flesh would feed itself. 13 “‘I continued beholding in the visions of my head upon my bed, and, look! a watcher, even a holy one, coming down from the heavens themselves. 14 He was calling out loudly, and this is what he was saying: “CHOP the tree down, and cut off its boughs. SHAKE off its foliage, and scatter its fruitage. Let the beast flee from under it, and the birds from its boughs. 15 However, LEAVE its rootstock itself in the earth, even with a banding of iron and of copper, among the grass of the field; and with the dew of the heavens let it be wet, and with the beast let its portion be among the vegetation of the earth. 16 Let its heart be changed from that of mankind, and let the heart of a beast be given to it, and let seven times pass over it. 17 By the decree of watchers the thing is, and [by] the saying of holy ones the request is, to the intent that people living may know that the Most High is Ruler in the kingdom of mankind and that to the one whom he wants to, he gives it and he sets up over it even the lowliest one of mankind.”
Nu 14:34 After the number of the days in which ye spied out the land, even forty days, for every day a year, shall ye bear your iniquities, even forty years, and ye shall know my alienation.
Eze 4:6 And again, when thou hast accomplished these, thou shalt lie on thy right side, and shalt bear the iniquity of the house of Judah: forty days, each day for a year, have I appointed it unto thee.
1 ¶ And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and one said, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.
2 And the court which is without the temple leave without, and measure it not; for it hath been given unto the nations: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.
3 ¶ And I will give unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth. Revelation 11:1-3
It was not until the 1800's that the 7 times of Daniel was more prominently viewed as prophetic and thought to have a much broader fulfilment in what was understood to be the end of something or everything yet in the future.
Clues were gathered from various books of the bible and assembled into a matrix of ‘proof’, matched to world history and given the date 1914 by a number of intrepid scholars looking for understanding, Jesus' return, Israel's reinstatement and salvation.
What do Jesus's words mean when he said, quoted by Luke in 21:24, that the Jews will fall by the edge of the sword and be led captive into all the nations; and Jerusalem will be trampled on by the nations, until the appointed times of the nations/Gentiles are fulfilled?
Well, there are four parallel running Gentile Times periods that end at the same time, while having different starting points:
1. The distinction between Jew (Israelite) and Gentile, that had existed from the
God's firstborn son Israel (Exodus 4:22) at their Exodus until the birth of the kingdom
of the 1000-years, will forever cease to exist anywhere in the universe, even as it has in
in the little flock of the Israel of God, the Seed of Abraham destined to be that
kingdom for the thousand years:
Galatians 3: 28-29: 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave
there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 And if you
are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise. NKJV
2 Exclusive dominion by non-theocratic nations (Gentiles) from when the last Davidic
king was dethroned and Jerusalem destroyed by the Babylonians until he birth of the
kingdom of the 1000-years.
3. The opportunity extended to non-theocratic people (Gentiles) to become an integral
part of natural Israel AND the kingdom of Priests and a Holy Nation of Exodus 19:3-8
beginning from the first Gentile Cornelius at the end of the 70 weeks of Daniel until
he birth of the kingdom of the 1000-years.
4. The Great Tribulation by non-theocratic nations upon an Israel no longer a theocracy,
from the destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans in 70 CE until he birth of the
kingdom of the 1000-years.
However earnestly devoted Christians may search the Scriptures in the contexts of history, no possible date can ever be established for when the Christ sends his angels to gather his chosen ones for governance in the Kingdom for the 1000 years. ─Matthew 24:29-31.
That alone plus Jesus' own words, spoken with reference to Israel's forthcoming destruction by the Romans and the beginning of their Great Tribulation, quoted here by Mark in 13:32: "But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. ought to be sufficient to prevent over eager anticipators setting dates for the end of these Gentile Times, while negating any attempt to commandeer 1914 into the prophecy fray.
Attendant to that is the false claim by Jehovah’s Witnesses that the heavenly Kingdom of God had already been established in 1914.
Irrelevant 1914 buried for good and ever!