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Edited*:   January  23  2017

* editing/adding pages & tuning my English.

In defence of the sidelined God Jehovah, Creator of the Universe and Father of Humanity

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Was Jesus Christ lower than God or lower than the Angels ?

Psalm 8 is virtually a poetic refrain of the original place of Man in Creation as per Genesis 1. Paul's citing this is clear evidence of Jesus' identical humanity as the son of man.  He was only as much a son of God as was Adam who was conceived, as in invented and designed, in heaven, but manufactured/fashioned in the womb of earth from exclusively earth matter which continued throughout his life.

David expressed this in beautifully in Psalm 139 where his being fashioned in the womb of his mother was likened to have occurred in the depth of the earth being constructed entirely from earth's preexisting molecules from conception to death.

13  For you yourself produced my kidneys; you kept me screened off in the belly of my mother. 14 I shall laud you because in a fear-inspiring way I am wonderfully made. your works are wonderful, As my soul is very well aware.  15 My bones were not hidden from you When I was made in secret, When I was woven in the lowest parts of the earth.  16 your eyes saw even the embryo of me, And in your book all its parts were down in writing, As regards the days when they were formed And there was not yet one among them. (Psalm 139:13-16) NWT

The son of man Jesus was as much a son of God as are the human products of artificial insemination.  Let's face it, Mary was artificially inseminated with a sperm created by the inventor of all procreative processes,  while His only-begotten son's* life was temporarily put on hold pending Jesus' life of obedience to the Law as he represented all facets of the entire nation of Israel, coming out of Egypt, repentance and baptism, a life of obedience to that Law and death, which allowed Jehovah's firstborn son Israel to be born again -Exodus 4:22; Hosea 11:1; Matthew 2:15.

Jesus is also known as firstborn son, but only with reference to Mary:

Mary, who had been given him in marriage as promised, at present heavy with child.  6 While they were there, the days came to the full for her to give birth.
 
7 And she gave birth to her son, the firstborn. (Luke 2:5-7) NWT.

* Those of Islam and Christendom please note:  No sexual intercourse by God was ever indicated and implied in the Judeo-Christian Scriptures or actually needed, because: 

1. There was no wife, since none was needed, and  

2. God created man from out of his design genius and life giving power He already had demonstrably used to conceive and design all living things, but fashioned through or via the only-begotten son he created entirely by Himself, on His own or mono-generated. The Greek word used to describe the generating methodology in the NT is Strong's 3439  monogenes mon-og-en-ace' which means only begotten.*

This only begotten angel has no gender even as God has not. They are neither male nor female like those described by Jesus in Luke 20:27-40, where genderlessness of angels is implied.  That is more powerfully confirmed in Galatians 3:28,29.  It must be understood that the English language lost grammatical gender by the end of the 14th Century.  The biblical languages, however, had grammatical gender even as most European languages retain that to this day.  That is why God is referred to as He, Him and His in translation, because Father is masculine in the languages of the Bible.

*mono- or mon-  prefix
One; single; alone
.  from: http://www.yourdictionary.com/mono-prefix


Does Psalm eight verse five say lower than God or than Angels?  Well,  here are eight translation of Psalm 8:5 where the footnote in the NKJV indicates God should have been used, whereas the other seven properly feature God in the main text:

1. NKJV:  For you have made him a little lower than the angels, {Hebrew Elohim, God; Septuagint, Syriac, Targum, and Jewish tradition translate as angels.} And you have crowned him with glory and honor.

2. NAS:  Yet Thou hast made him a little lower than God, And dost crown him with glory and majesty!

3. ASV:  For thou hast made him but little lower than God, And crownest him with glory and honor.

4. RSV:  Yet thou hast made him little less than God, and dost crown him with glory and honor.

5. ERV:  For thou hast made him but little lower than God, and crownest him with glory and honour.

6. NLT:  Yet you made them only a little lower than God and crowned them with glory and honor.

7. NRSV:  Yet you have made them a little lower than God, and crowned them with glory and honor.

8. HCSB:   you made him little less than God and crowned him with glory and honor.

According to one, if not all sources on the Internet, Paul is thought to have used less than angels from the Septuagint's reading of Psalm 8:5:  Thou madest him a little less than angels, thou hast crowned him with glory and honour;(LXX)  and was therefore committed to use angels in Hebrews 2:7.

What a pathetic assumption indeed.

There was no shortage of OT Hebrew scrolls in the first century.

True, I wasn't there, but neither were those claimants.

At the time, the LXX was only a means to afford continuing spiritual contact with Israelites in the wider Diaspora, where Greek tended to dominate for a little while.

The NWT compromisingly, but not entirely incorrectly, renders that verse in the Psalm:

you also proceeded to make him a little less than godlike ones, And with glory and splendor you then crowned him.   (Psalm 8:5) NWT

and in Hebrews:

you made him a little lower than angels; with glory and honor you crowned him, and appointed him over the works of your hands. (Hebrews 2:6-7) NWT

to add insult to injury, the translators cleverly engineered the following verse in the same chapter to imply Jesus dying for mankind rather just for the few under the debt of their transgressions of the Mosaic Law only they could ever have committed, since only they had that law:

but we behold Jesus, who has been made a little lower than angels, crowned with glory and honor for having suffered death, that he by God’s undeserved kindness might taste death for every* [man].* (Hebrews 2:9). NWT  
*Or, "every kind of." NWT

Yes indeed, he tasted death for every man in apostate adulterous Israel under the Law who were destined for nonexistence according to that law.

Hey wait a minute, that word man is not in the original manuscript!

There is just says for all.  For all of what?  For every thing? as one translation (Darby) has it? German translations frequently render it with the idea of everything, all things.

In their latest translation or edition of the NWT, Jehovah's Witnesses have removed all the brackets around words and ideas not in the original text. That also changed the rendering of Hebrews 2:9:

9 But we do see Jesus, who was made a little lower than angels, now crowned with glory and honor for having suffered death, so that by God’s undeserved kindness he might taste death for everyone.  NWT 2013

For everyone of what?  Or All of what?  For all and everyone of the only nation in a covenant relationship with God for all that they had done, all that they owed to Jehovah in connection with their obligations imposed upon them by the law covenant.  All were now collectively forgiven through their death in Jesus because: For, he that hath died, hath become righteously acquitted from his sin. Romans 6:7 Rotherham - others say freed or justified.

* Isaiah rightly said this in and about Israel under the Law and included himself: But he was being pierced for our transgression; he was being crushed for our errors. The chastisement meant for our peace was upon him, and because of his wounds there has been a healing for us. (Isaiah 53:5) NWT

For if by the trespass of the one [man] death ruled as king through that one, much more will those who receive the abundance of the undeserved kindness and of the free gift of righteousness rule as kings in life through the one [person], Jesus Christ. (Romans 5:17) NWT

who gave himself a corresponding ransom for all* —what is to be witnessed to at its own particular times. (1 Timothy 2:6) NWT
*Or, "all sorts of people."

Another naughty twist is in Isaiah 61:1 where they inserted a bracketed phrase [of the eyes]:

The spirit of the Sovereign Lord Jehovah is upon me, for the reason that Jehovah has anointed me to tell good news to the meek ones.  He has sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to those taken captive and the wide opening [of the eyes] even to the prisoners;.
(Isaiah 61:1)
NWT

Opening even to the prisoners is the real intent of Jesus' message, the meaning of which all but escapes the whole Christian world community.

They did this ostensibly to highlight knowledge rather than the literal freeing of Israel from their prison of servitude occasioned by what happened at Sinai, represented by Hagar, and compounded by their accumulated debt of transgression against the law which had placed that great adulteress* and prostitute on death row.

Jesus freed them by being executed in their stead.

* Jeremiah 31: 31  Behold, the days come, saith Jehovah, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:  32  not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was a husband unto them, saith Jehovah. asv


A bit more about Psalm 8:5 – Man being made a little lower than God

Contrary to the mess that verse has been made into by the Bride of Christ Christianity, as they interfered by altering Paul's words of Hebrews 2:5-8, where he quotes from that passage in Psalm, to read Angels instead of God and then sort of applies that to Jesus, as if verses 4-8 of Psalm 8 were prophetic of Israel's Messiah,

Psalm 8:5 reads God in the following Bible Translations:

American Standard Version 1901

Revised Standard Version 1947

New American Standard Version 1977

New Revised Standard Version 1989

English Revised Version 1885

New Living Translation 1996

Noyes Translation 1869

Holman Christian Standard Bible 2003

Calvin – Partial Translation 1522


These read Angels or similar:

New World Translation

King James

New King James Version

Webster

Rotherham: Messengers of God

New International version: heavenly beings

LXXE- Septuagint – (Jewish superstitions unfortunately prevailed here)


What all these Christian religions have done is to interpret Psalm 8 as prophetic of the Lord Jesus, whereas it is just a heartfelt poetic embellishment of the original trust assigned to the first two humans as per Genesis 1:26-28.  This is particularly a sin of those who have commandeered the designation Christian (anointed) for themselves.

The apostle Paul quoted from Psalm 8 in Hebrews 2:6-8 in the context of his ‘discussion’ about the Messiah, to demonstrate Jesus' complete systemic humanity; equal in every respect to that of Adam.



End of my as yet unfinished sinphony